New Stove, Galley and Dinette

Dickinson Pacific Cook Stove with Oven and Diesel Fuel



EvenSong has a used Dickinson Pacific Cook Stove sitting in storage. The stove has an internal coil to make hot water for washing. It can heat about four gallons of water in a storage tank. EvenSong has a four gallon IsoTherm water storage tank (in storage as well). The tank can be heated with water from the engine or 120 V AC.  An optimum installation would be for a tripple heat source, the engine, the stove and 120 V.

This page details the stove, proposed installation. And someday perhaps, pictures and stories of the completed installation.

A new Dickinson Pacific stove.

EvenSong’s is coated in oil to prevent rusting and in a shipping
container

Dickinson Pacific Cook Stove with Oven – Specifications

Dickinson Pacific Installation Manual >


Sigmar Stove on EvenSong

There is a Sigmar Diesel stove currently installed. The Sigmar diesel heat stove has a flat top for cooking on EvenSong (as of April 2010). It is installed in the main cabin, port side against the forward bulkhead. Notice, there is no heat shield in this picture. The Sigamr has a three inch flue while the Dickinson Pacific has a five inch flue. Due to the main companionway being off centered, the walkway is  in not in the center of the main cabin. There is more room on the port side of the walkway than on the starboard. Consequently the galley on Halberdiers is on the starboard side and the seating area on the port.


Proposed placement of the Pacific stove

When I purchased EvenSong in Buffalo, the main cabin was just a bare hull without a floor. The present galley and eating area were a temporary installation for the trip back to Nova Scotia. They were built with two chests of drawers, a cabinet  and a table from a Salvation Army store, a sheet of plywood and lots of screws. It worked  for the trip to Rimouski, but needs improvements for the longer trip to the Torngats. The table only seats three and one person would be toasted by the Sigmar stove. We used a folding lawn chair for the fourth person, but it’s always in the way. Plus the Coleman camp stove was not a permanent installation and we had to set it up and take down for each use. A eating area that seats six comfortable would be great.

The plan is to rebuild the galley and install the Pacific stove aft of the sink. The sink is on the left of this picture, above the paper towel rack and mahogany wooden door.

The galley as is April 2010

The stove has a five inch flue that needs a seven inch hole. A yellow tape measure is positioned in the following pictures to represent the path of flue/stove pipe from the Pacific stove.
The placement of the stove fore and aft is controlled by the aft end of the sink. In this placement the stovepipe must have a four inch jog to the forward. The outlet on the stove is four inches aft of the proposed hole in the coachroof. Evesong has a large sink and I would hate to lose it just to more the stove forward 4 inches. The yellow measuring tape is straight in the pictures as my arms are not long enough to take the picture and bend the tape!


Pictures shoping the placement of the proposed flue hole on the deck.


Considerations and Advise Requested

The following are issues to be addressed by the installation and advise I would like from you. Please add your advice and suggestions to the comment box below. These are mainly directed at the owners of other Moody Halberdiers and their experiences.
Considerations

  • A rail of some type may be needed  to prevent sheets from catching on the flue cap and to prevent crew from steping on the cap or using it as a hand or foothold.
  • The dodger is about three feet above the coach roof and the stove pipe must be tall enough to exhaust above the coach roof.
  • Important to prevent exhaust from re-entering the cabin when winds are from forward.
  • The stove weight 110 pounds (50 kgs). Storage of other gear should balance the weight of the stove and maintain an even keel. Probably not much of a consideration as EvenSong’s displacement is 19,000+ pounds (8,700 kgs). The stove represents 0.6% of the boat’s displacement.
  • Where to place the water storage tank: The best place would in the top of the starboard locket in the companionway forward of the galley. The locker is on the opposite side of the companionway from the forward head. It’s high enough for hot water to naturally circulate from the coil  in the stove up and into the tank. Plus it’s close to the sink and shower and sink in the forward head so less water is lost as crew run the water waiting for hot water to come out of the taps. It would be a longer run  to circulate engine water. Due to this longer run and higher resistance due to the length of the hose and twists and turns, a larger hose would be needed for the engine water.
  • Where to place the two gallon day tank for easy filling and sufficient height for the diesel fuel oil to flow? Last fall, at -6 deg C. temperatures the diesel would hardly flow through 30 feet of 3/8 ths inch diameter pipe and 6 foot of head! I am thinking up high in the starboard cockpit locker. It’s on the same side as and six feet from the stove.  This would require a filler cap in the cockpit wall and a vent or easy access to open the vent cap to allow air in as fuel is used.

Advise Requested

  • Is the coach roof strong enough to retain it’s strength after  a seven inch hole is cut in the deck?  The proposed flue hole is outboard of the skylight and in the middle of  an area reinforced by glass encased wood frames. See last picture.
  • Is the hole too close to the edge of the coach roof.
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One response

6 05 2010
Chris Ayres, Lady Lonsdale

1, We have short rails over our brass vents on the forward dorade boxes. Essential to avoid untangling the sheets.
2.Fumes as you know can be hazardous. Carbon monoxide poisoning can occur when fumes are drawn back into the cabin.
3. The stove sounds heavy. We use a gas oven. Anyway, it solves you ballast problem for all the extra stores you can pack if you re-vamp the p/s seating and eating arrangement. By the way, David, our smaller table seats 4 – any more and we eat in the wheelhouse.
4. I thought about this problem too and ended up fitting a smaller 4wd/camper van type calorific water heater. Tom has a better system mounted in the s/h deck locker. I Qld our need for hot water is less vital.
5. An electric fuel pump. I fitted one to Lady L just to give extra lift to the fuel for the new Kubota 50 hp motor we installed. It has the added advantage of making bleeding the system most easy.
6. I would hesitate to cut a 7″ hole although the deck is 18 mm in most places.
7. I guess engineering-wise a hole closer to the edge of the coach roof might be stronger, benefitting from the curvature of the coach roof structure.
Chris

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